@MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. 3. Also a high ranking member of. Jul 12. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. 11. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. As did VT. 2. Replying to. 19. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. Retweets. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. 13. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. But not the question asked. 6. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. Replying to. Retweets. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. read image description. OMG I was wrong. Sign upSee new Tweets. Likes. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Likes. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. 3 — is made for TV. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. Sign up. @MHver3. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. I’m packing it up. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Miguel. @MHver3. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. In person. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. Quote Tweets. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. Found. Retweets. Likes. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. AZ has and AZSU problem. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. 1 — and for No. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. I’m packing it up. Log in. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Might even see a Huskie or two. ALT. Likes. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. @KStateKyle. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. I’ve even called it that myself. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. @MHver3. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. Huskies have come back to the table. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. This will be my last tweet for a bit. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. 5m. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). Oregon was the third choice as a. ”Log in. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. Bradley Berry M. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. This is the “Tier1” package. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. Retweets. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. They know. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. MHver3. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. and @Mountaineer_Ste. 6. That’s all I’ve got. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 21. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Could also mean ND is rethinking. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. Got a PAC update. 19. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. It did ok. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. 21. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. ” MHver3 @MHver3. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. No one has control. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. They are looking at 1. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. 5% each. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. @bobtrollsby. Amazon gets more first choice. There’s a catch. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. That’s it. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Likes. Yormark has a vision. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. It actually decreases it. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. Gonzaga is in for basketball. . Look for a thread soon. At least for the next 6-8 years. Quote. @MHver3. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Louis Oliverio. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. 4. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. Likes. I’ve shared that here last summer. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. @xtmountain. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. Ed. Ugh. 3. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. @MHver3. Their additions brought stability. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. This happened sometime in the past few days. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. Look for a thread soon. OMG I was wrong. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. 3. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. 1. Staples: The realignment battle for No. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to @MHver3. 82. That’s it. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. and @Mountaineer_Ste. 1 — and for No. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. and. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. 251. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. @m_iguel_ca. 2. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. @MHver3. 23. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. Washington was their next choice. ”GK about to get shipped to China. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@godawgs4 Not really. ·. That’s all I’ve got. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Amazon gets more first choice. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Taking the four will crush the P12. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. and @JimUSFSig. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. @MHver3. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. Log in. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. AZ has and AZSU problem. 239. Retweets. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. 7h. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. MHver3 @MHver3. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion.